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tots

28-01-2008 07:03:52

Hi there,

is there any usb device based on the rt73 (or other) chip that has a master mode working? If yes, which one? Thanks for your reply.

-AJ

IvD

28-01-2008 08:52:03

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tots

28-01-2008 09:54:16

http//rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4582&highlight=master+mode
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Not about USB, but about hostapd. I know of drivers implementing the master mode without the hostapd utility (zd1211b legacy)
http//rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4543&highlight=master+mode[/quote2w4jjmax]
About a PCI device. Working with a PCI device does not mean working with an USB device that contains another chip.
http//rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4550&highlight=master+mode[/quote2w4jjmax]I didn't found this one with the help of the search button. But thanks, it is useful.
http//rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4541&highlight=master+mode[/quote2w4jjmax]Not about rt73usb. Why should I think that's the same for than for another chip?!?
http//rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4203&highlight=master+mode[/quote2w4jjmax]The last reply of that post helps me but I wont find it with the search tool. The rt73 keyword doesn't appears.
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http//rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4340&highlight=master+mode[/quote2w4jjmax]Idem

The point is that 1) I don't know automagically that rt73usb needs hostapd to work in master mode. I didn't find that clearly on your website and your device drivers name does not appear on the hostapd web site. 2) I can't know automagically that all your device drivers are the same regarding the master mode. Not in the FAQ, can't find that info on your website. 3) How the hell could I know that the master mode need a feature of the mac80211 stack that's not actually working?!? I know of drivers working a bit without any special kernel requirements (zd1211b legacy).

So I've googled, I've used the search button of your forum before posting and I've read the 'doc' of your website. But all these info do not appear clearly somewhere. Thanks for your reply, for being rude and anticontructive.

IvD

28-01-2008 10:28:00

Well adding one keyword extra seems to return results as well.
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With rt2x00 it is possible to run multiple client interfaces with only 1 single device. 1 client interface can run in adhoc, managed or [b107duv7h]master[/b107duv7h] mode while a second or more client interface can run in monitor mode at the same time.
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From the readme in the rt2x00 package
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To configure the interface several tools are possible, the most basic tools are the wireless-tools that provide the iwconfig, iwpriv and iwlist commands. For WPA connections the wireless-tools are not sufficient, to configure the interface for WPA wireless network wpa_supplicant is required. For master mode functionality it is possible to only use the wireless-tools, but it is recommended to use hostapd instead. This tool offers the best functionality.
For all configuration tools (wireless-tools, wpa_supplicant and hostapd) are manuals and howto's present in the manpages or on the internet. It is adviced to have at least read the manpages before using the tools for a better understanding on configuring the interface.
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IvD

28-01-2008 10:34:57


So I've googled, I've used the search button of your forum before posting and I've read the 'doc' of your website. But all these info do not appear clearly somewhere.
Thanks for your reply, for being rude and anticontructive.[/quote38iarle9]

Your welcome, but _if_ you had really used the search button you would have known this is the most frequently asked question, so stating the question more clearly (with you mentioning you had tried to search on the forum and the website, but couldn't find it and you needed something specific instead of blindly typing what all other users have typed as well) would have had a better response.

But since you didn't do that, I am going to assume you didn't search at all, and are now just complaining because someone pointed you to the obvious...

tots

28-01-2008 11:09:59


So I've googled, I've used the search button of your forum before posting and I've read the 'doc' of your website. But all these info do not appear clearly somewhere.
Thanks for your reply, for being rude and anticontructive.[/quote1hfqub9n]

Your welcome, but _if_ you had really used the search button you would have known this is the most frequently asked question, so stating the question more clearly (with you mentioning you had tried to search on the forum and the website, but couldn't find it and you needed something specific instead of blindly typing what all other users have typed as well) would have had a better response.[/quote1hfqub9n]

I did use you famous search button, check you logs. It was maybe a bad idea to search only in the rt73 (usb) category.

What I wanted to say is that it is far from being clear that your device drivers cannot actually work in master mode (without checking out the git tree). This is an important information and without knowing that rt200x is in fact a collection of device drivers, that hostap is needed, that there is no differences at the master mode level between rt72 usb and rt2***, and so on and so on, you can't conclude for sure that the master mode won't work.

That's easy to trash forum's visitor when the provided doc is not clean and complete.

Thanks for your reply,
-AJ